Tuesday, November 29, 2011

Re: Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad

Mike (and others):  Thank you for bringing this to my attention.  I was chairman of the Congressional Advisory Panel on Homeland Security while I was Governor.  We considered the misuse of the military in the homeland as a very serious threat to our civil liberties.  It is not good enough that the new authority is not applicable to U.S. citizens. This would be the wrong direction for our country.  Based on my prior experience, I would not believe the U.S. military would want this authority. In the homeland, this is a police matter. I will inquire as to whether these provisions are being misrepresented to the public.  If accurate, however, they should be removed from the Defense Authorization Bill, or soundly defeated. Jim Gilmore

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Mike Prunty <mprunty@afpcsf.com> wrote:





Hi Mike, when this article appeared on the Drudge Report yesterday it sent shivers up my spine but after reading the sections that were mentioned in the article (1031 and 1032) it clearly says this does not extend to US citizens or lawful resident aliens. I clipped this portion directly from the Senate bill 1867. You may want to let people know this.




          (b) Applicability to United States Citizens and Lawful Resident Aliens-

(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS- The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.



Take care,


Patty Diggs

District Representative

Office of Congressman Rob Wittman

Peninsula District Office

4904-B George Washington Memorial Highway

Yorktown, Virginia


Fax: (757) 874-7164

email: Patty.diggs@mail.house.gov


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Subject: FW: Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad




From: John Taylor [mailto:johntaylor@virginiainstitute.org]
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 8:25 PM
To: mprunty@afpcsf.com
Subject: Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad




Secret Bill To Be Voted On Today Would Allow The Military To Sweep Up US Citizens At Home Or Abroad

Robert Johnson | Nov. 28, 2011, 10:57 AM 



Either Monday or Tuesday the Senate will vote on a bill that allows the US military to imprison civilians with no formal charges and hold them with no trial.

The ACLU reports even US citizens wouldn't be immune as the legislation aims to declare national territory part of the "battlefield" in the War on Terror.

Termed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and drafted behind closed doors by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) the NDAA would:

1) Explicitly authorize the federal government to indefinitely imprison without charge or trial American citizens and others picked up inside and outside the United States;

(2) Mandate military detention of some civilians who would otherwise be outside of military control, including civilians picked up within the United States itself; and 

(3) Transfer to the Department of Defense core prosecutorial, investigative, law enforcement, penal, and custodial authority and responsibility now held by the Department of Justice.

From the ACLU's website:

In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will "basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield" and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial "American citizen or not." Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because "America is part of the battlefield."

In an effort to stop the bill, Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) is floating the Udall Amendment, which according to the ACLU is:

"A way for the Senate to say no to indefinite detention without charge or trial anywhere in the world where any president decides to use the military. Instead of simply going along with a bill that was drafted in secret and is being jammed through the Senate, the Udall Amendment deletes the provisions and sets up an orderly review of detention power. It tries to take the politics out and put American values back in.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/secret-bill-to-be-voted-on-today-would-allow-the-military-to-sweep-up-us-citizens-at-home-or-abroad-2011-11#ixzz1f3M3QApw


James S. Gilmore III

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